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Hour 6 - Burqa. Religious Tradtion of Oppressive to Women?
When it comes to Muslim women wearing Burqas throughout the world, do you feel that it is part of who they are and important to their religious traditions, or is it degrading, oppressive and takes away from who they are? If you are struggling to continue debate, refer to the link below
I think burqas are are religous tradition and if you banned them it would be like taking away the muslim religion. It would be like someone taking away your religion and your traditions. It is taking away your religous freedom. Women shouldnt be forced to wear them but they also shouldnt be banned.
I strongly disagree with you because it is a small part of their religion and I don't think that you made a very good comparision with out religions because most of the other religions don't require women and anyone else to cover their entire bodies.
ITS NOT TAKING AWAY RELIGION, ITS GETTING TOOK AWAY BECAUSE OF ALL THE DRAMA BETWEEN IT. IF IT WAS NEVER FORCED BY A COUNTRY, IT PROBALY WOULDNT OF GOT TOOK AWAY. SO THIS ALL COMES BACK TO THE OPPRESSIVENESS OF SOME COUNTRYS!!!!! AND YOU CAN STILL WHERE A CHADOR, THATS NOT BREAKING THE QUARAN DRESS CODE, YOU STILL HAVE EVERYTHING EXCEPT YOUR FACE AND ARMS COVERED
YES BENNETT< MY POINT EXACTLY! It's not like you cant stop your religion if you dont wear a burqa. First of all, its not even required so......??? and Second, they can just wear a chador, to those who feel unprotected without it!
I agree Bennett. It only got taken away because of the oppresiveness, so that shows that it is oppresive. If no one forced it, it would be fine. I also agree that it isn't really taking away from their religion because that is just going over the top, it isn't forced by their religion.
But would you rather have people getting beat everyday for not wearing burqas or would you rather have a few countries not let them wear it. Because if I were you, I wouldn't want to get beat for not wearing my burqa
If they wanted to show who they truly are wouldn't they want to stand not look like everyone else. If they truly wanted to show who they are they wouldn't want to go walking around everywhere looking like everyone else
first i will like proof of where its said that they just have to dress modestly and if you do find proof which there probaly is but they are only wearing the black burqas because its their choice to wear that
yes women should have there choice but yet many women don't want to be forced to wear the burqa, they don't want to have to worry about if i walk on the street without my burqa i could get killed, or beaten very badly. They should just ban the burqa so they don't have to worry about getting harmed because of it
i agree yet they shouldnt ban it for the people that want to wear it but for the people that dont they dont feel its right to get hurt for not wearing something that they dont want to because everyone else gets a chance to wear what ever they want. alot of people are hurt for not wearing them.
IT JUST CAUSES TOO MUCH DRAMA, THEY CAN STILL WEAR A CHADOR, AND IT WOULD BE FOLLOWING THESE RULES FROM THE QUARAN: *24:30-31 Dressing modestly, therefore, is a trait of the believing men and women. The minimum requirements for a woman's dress is to lengthen her garment (33:59) and to cover her chest. Tyrannical Arab traditions have given a false impression that a woman must be covered from head to toe; such is not a Quranic or Islamic dress
I think that this statement is not very believable or true because we all know that some of them choose to wear it. WHY DO THEY CHOOSE TO WEAR IT????? Everybody knows that they wear it to support their religion, but what does it symbolize? "A Burqa is an outer garment worn by women in Islamic societies specifically to hide the face or body. It is usually worn when women leave their homes, or are around men unrelated to them. The burqa is seen as an expression of devoted faith in Islam."
This says that they wear it in Islamic societes to hide their face or body and that it is worn when women leave their homes, or are around men unrelated to them.. How would you like it if you had to wear that every day no matter what and you couldn't wear anything else? I would find it extremly frustrating.
Most of them are though look at this website it says they took a survey of 160 women and of the 160, 97% of them are forced to wear it. And just think would you want to look like everyone else? People want to stand out they want to be different then others they don't always want to wear the same clothing as others, they want to be and indivudial they don't want to look like a group of people. All people are different don't you want to look that way, and i thought it was a good thing to be different i think women should be able to show that.
Not really. On that other video, they were talking about how just becuase you wear a burqa, doesn't mean you shouldn't personalize it. But they don't. They wear it as a uniform. It doesn't show their identity. It shows they are the same as other muslim women.
When your body is covered from head to toe i dont think it shows the persons identity. And when you meet someone don't you want to see there face, you dont just want to be looking at a black garmet. A black garmet shows nothing about a person
I think the burka is religeous tradition because it says in the quran, "o children of Adam, we have provided you with garments to cover your bodies, as well as for luxury. But the best garment is the garment of righteousness. These are some of God's signs, that they may take heed." (7:26
Yet it says cover your bodies yet there are other clothing that can cover your body. So women should be able to choose other clothing to wear they could wear something that covers there body not as much but still covers them. And it never said cover your body with a burqa it just says we have provided you with garments to cover you bodies it never says anything about a burqa
I disagree with you ian. It doesn't say anything about burqa's it just says "garments to cover your bodies". That means that burqa's are not mentioned in the quran. So they are not a religous tradition to the people.
This is a section from the Qaran about women wearing clothing such as burqas and why they should wear them.
"O Prophet! Say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the faithful to draw their outergarments (jilbabs) close around themselves; that is better that they will be recognized and not annoyed. And God is ever Forgiving, Gentle."
Qur'an Surah/Chapter Al-Ahzab Ayah/Verse 59
This clearly says that women should wear burqas so they can be recognized and not annoyed or forced to stay in the shadows.
But, it still says "Say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the faithful to draw their outergarments (jilbabs) close around themselves". It doesn't say that they need to completley cover themselves.
The way they interpreted it is wrong it just says cover you bodies with the garmets we have given you, it never said they had to be covered from head to toe, it just said they have to be covered, so they could wear different clothing and they would still be covered
But Sam, it also says "that they will be better recognized" so it can't be talking about the burqa because you can't recognize someone who is wearing a burqa. I agree that women should (if they want to) wear chadors or hijabs, but they shoulnd't be forced to wear burqas because it is not a religious tradition.
I agree, but the question is how are the women recognized while they are wearing there burqa's? Also if in some country's that they are forced to wear them does the government give you one or do you have to buy a burqa?
Prove it. If it does say that men and women have to wear the burqa, then why do only women wear it? This is either not true, or showing that the men are being oppresive to the women by forcing them to wear it but not wearing it themselves.
they wear it to mace sure that men dont judge them by the cloths they wear and you can take it off at home just not in the pressince of men. in the Quran it says in 24:30-31
"Dressing modestly, therefore, is a trait of the believing men and women. The minimum requirements for a woman's dress is to lengthen her garment (33:59) and to cover her chest. Tyrannical Arab traditions have given a false impression that a woman must be covered from head to toe; such is not a Quranic or Islamic dress."
I found a website that is for a busineness that is actually in the United Arab Emirates(which is located in in Africa east of Saudi Arabia) that sells Burqas in different colors. So women can actually choose the colors they want and still be following their religous code.
I think the burqa is oppresive to women because in the koran it ONLY states that women have to wear modest clothing, not something that covers their whole body, so it seems like they HAVE to wear the burqa.
YEAH, BUT THEY CAN WEAR THE CHADOR AND THAT WOULD BE JUST AS FINE, A BURQA IS A LITTLE TOO EXTREME, AND THERE IS SOME EVIDENCE THAT THE REASON MOST WOMEN WEAR IT IS BECAUSE OF ABUSIVE HUSBAND, AND ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS FORCING THEM TOO.
I believe that Burqas are opressive to women because it takes away their ability to communicate effectivly considering that most of our communication is through facial expressions. Also, they can't be their own person, and show their individuality through their own choice of clothing.
In the Koran, it doesn't say to cover your face, so the burqa is not a required religous tradition, it's just an extra step that most people don't take anyways. Taking it away when it's not required is better than making people who don't want to wear it wear it.
When you wear a burqa it makes you look like everyone else, girls dont want to look like everyone else, when you look like everyone else you don't look like an individual you look like a group. And everyone is different I thought it was a good thing to be different from everyone else
The burqa is usually understood to be the woman's loose body-covering (Arabic: jilbāb), plus the head-covering (Arabic: ḥijāb, taking the most usual meaning), plus the face-veil (Arabic: niqāb)...... thats from wikipedia! and if you notice how the word covering appears a lot. so you are pretty much trying to cover the muslim women's personality.
I think that the burqa is oppressive to women because in most country's they don't have a choice to wear them. They should be able to express themselves like men. All people should be equal even if some people have more power then others. NO ONE should have to do/wear anything that they don't want to.
I think that the woman should be able to decide weather or not they wear burqas, they shouldnt be killed or beaten when they get cought not wearing it. If they believe that they should then they can have that choice to wear it but if they dont believe in wearing it then they shouldnt have to.
if women are getting hurt by people calling them rude names or getting shot because they dont want to wear the burqa like the guys do they shouldnt have to be tautured by people out there that say they have to wear them
i think burqas are opressive to women because they dont have a choice to not wear them and they dont get to show who they are. also if they do want to wear them they can, but some women are being forced and its not fair to them.
Burqas are oppreessive to women because it doesn't show who they are they look the same and I say that if some of the women had a choice to wear it or not most of them i'm not saying all of them but most of them would chose not to wear one.
I dont think that many women like to wear burqas and if many of them had the choice to not wear them alot of them wouldnt. also most girls have to wear them cause their parents make them even though they would rather not wear them. i think that they should all have a choice to wear burqas if they want to they can but if they dont like them than they should be able to not wear them.
you spelled choice wrong, and lets talk about the taliban. the taliban are bad people and have done things wrong, like beating up (and blowing up) WOMEN!!! obviously they have a problem with women?! I Challenge anybody to find where it says it's right to beat anybody up for anything!
One of the bad things about the burqa is that a man could commit a crime. Then put on a burqa and escape. The police would think that the person was a women and knowing that the person who commited the crime was a man they would not bother to think that that person was a suspect.
In the middle east, with the high temperatures, the thick black burqas attract the sun and heat reaching scorching temps of 113 degrees! Women are killed each year, and they should have the right to wear what they want and have freedom. BAN THE BURQAS!
This is the headline of the article you found your facts from... Doesn't seem too reliabel. Also it's a blog which means that anyone could say anything on it... Find a better sorce and i will believe you.
in america the muslem women dresses how she wants to, she has the choice of wearing what she thinks is right.it says in the Quran, "Tell the believing men that they shall subdue their eyes (and not stare at the women), and to maintain their chastity. This is purer for them. God is fully Cognizant of everything they do."
You spelled forced wrong twice, and then let's talk about Afghanistan. There, it is completely oppresive. It doesn't let them be human. It is similar to being a slave. It is like them having less rights than other people.
I agree with you max because it is exactly like slavery, the people get no freedom of what they want to wear and no choice! it is so unfair that women have to go through this, they should have the same freedom has men.