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Hour 6 - Burqa. Religious Tradtion of Oppressive to Women?
When it comes to Muslim women wearing Burqas throughout the world, do you feel that it is part of who they are and important to their religious traditions, or is it degrading, oppressive and takes away from who they are? If you are struggling to continue debate, refer to the link below
If it is a religous tradition to wear a Burqa how come Muhommed THE CREATOR OF THIS RELIGION said " I give you permission to go out and carry out your natural work.
yet many women dont like to wear burqas, they like to be different they don't just want to blend in with everyone else you want to be noticed, you want to stand out from others.
I disagree because it is not God's law to wear the burqa. In the Quaron, it says that women should dress modestly. It says nothing about women wearing extremely confining clothing.
GODS LAW? FALSE!!! It is a religious tradition, and the burqa states to dress moderatly, and nonrevealing. WEAR A CHADOR! The burqa is not a requirement.
I think burqas are are religous tradition and if you banned them it would be like taking away the muslim religion. It would be like someone taking away your religion and your traditions. It is taking away your religous freedom. Women shouldnt be forced to wear them but they also shouldnt be banned.
I strongly disagree with you because it is a small part of their religion and I don't think that you made a very good comparision with out religions because most of the other religions don't require women and anyone else to cover their entire bodies.
ITS NOT TAKING AWAY RELIGION, ITS GETTING TOOK AWAY BECAUSE OF ALL THE DRAMA BETWEEN IT. IF IT WAS NEVER FORCED BY A COUNTRY, IT PROBALY WOULDNT OF GOT TOOK AWAY. SO THIS ALL COMES BACK TO THE OPPRESSIVENESS OF SOME COUNTRYS!!!!! AND YOU CAN STILL WHERE A CHADOR, THATS NOT BREAKING THE QUARAN DRESS CODE, YOU STILL HAVE EVERYTHING EXCEPT YOUR FACE AND ARMS COVERED
I AGREE. IT ONLY SAYS THEY HAVE TO WEAR MODARIT CLOTHING IT DOESNT SAY THEY HAVE TO WEAR THE BURQA IN THERE KORAN, SO ITS NOT TAKING AWAY THERE RELIGIOUS TRIDITION
YES BENNETT< MY POINT EXACTLY! It's not like you cant stop your religion if you dont wear a burqa. First of all, its not even required so......??? and Second, they can just wear a chador, to those who feel unprotected without it!
I agree Bennett. It only got taken away because of the oppresiveness, so that shows that it is oppresive. If no one forced it, it would be fine. I also agree that it isn't really taking away from their religion because that is just going over the top, it isn't forced by their religion.
Well of course they shouldn't be banned or forced. But banning them would do more good then forcing all women to wear them. It's pretty much saying a women is nothing and they can't be seen.
VERY TRUE! TO ALL YOU WOMEN OUT THERE, DO YOU THINK YOU ARE WORTHLESS? THATS WHAT I THOUGHT! YOU MIGHT JUST SAY, OH ITS RELIGIOUS TRADITION, WELL THEN WEAR THE CHADOR!
I very much agree with you kaarina the burqas shouldnt be banned just because some countries dont like their religous traditions its what they really believe in.
I disagree Sam. It is not that other countries don't like their religion, it is that they are worried about the women of the religion are being taken advantage of.
But would you rather have people getting beat everyday for not wearing burqas or would you rather have a few countries not let them wear it. Because if I were you, I wouldn't want to get beat for not wearing my burqa
I agree with you Kaarina that burqa are a religous tradition and they shouldn't banned from anywhere because they are just supporting their religion and it's not right to take that away from them.
It is not showing who you truly are when your entire body is covered. Although it is part of their religion, it is still forced upon them in some areas.
If they wanted to show who they really are they would not wear a burqa. Also if they wanted to they could get different designs on them and not look the same as everyone else.
If they wanted to show who they truly are wouldn't they want to stand not look like everyone else. If they truly wanted to show who they are they wouldn't want to go walking around everywhere looking like everyone else
If muslim women want to keep their religion in their family and they want to embrace their religion then they should have the freedom everywhere in the world on what they want to wear.
THEN WHY ARE THEY WEARING THE SAME BLACK BURQA THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS WEARING. THATS NOT SUPPORTING THE RELIGION BECAUSE ALL IT SAYS IS THAT THEY HAVE TO DRESS MODESTLY.
first i will like proof of where its said that they just have to dress modestly and if you do find proof which there probaly is but they are only wearing the black burqas because its their choice to wear that
For women: Cover your chest (24:31); Lengthen your garments (33:59) and for both sexes; The BEST garment is righteousness and modest conduct (7:26). There's your proof.
yeah like i said i figured you were going to find proof. but still YES THEY DO BECAUSE IN SOME COUNTRIES THEY DO HAVE THE CHOICE BUT IN OTHERS THEY BAN THE BURQAS
yes women should have there choice but yet many women don't want to be forced to wear the burqa, they don't want to have to worry about if i walk on the street without my burqa i could get killed, or beaten very badly. They should just ban the burqa so they don't have to worry about getting harmed because of it
i agree yet they shouldnt ban it for the people that want to wear it but for the people that dont they dont feel its right to get hurt for not wearing something that they dont want to because everyone else gets a chance to wear what ever they want. alot of people are hurt for not wearing them.
IT JUST CAUSES TOO MUCH DRAMA, THEY CAN STILL WEAR A CHADOR, AND IT WOULD BE FOLLOWING THESE RULES FROM THE QUARAN: *24:30-31 Dressing modestly, therefore, is a trait of the believing men and women. The minimum requirements for a woman's dress is to lengthen her garment (33:59) and to cover her chest. Tyrannical Arab traditions have given a false impression that a woman must be covered from head to toe; such is not a Quranic or Islamic dress
If muslim women want to respect their religion they should have the right to choose. It's a demonstation of their faith to their country and nowhere in the Koran does it say they have to wear it.
Not every woman that wears a burqa is forced to wear it. Some have the choice if they want to wear it. Some are not forced to wear it but they CHOOSE to because they want to support their religion.
I think that this statement is not very believable or true because we all know that some of them choose to wear it. WHY DO THEY CHOOSE TO WEAR IT????? Everybody knows that they wear it to support their religion, but what does it symbolize? "A Burqa is an outer garment worn by women in Islamic societies specifically to hide the face or body. It is usually worn when women leave their homes, or are around men unrelated to them. The burqa is seen as an expression of devoted faith in Islam."
This says that they wear it in Islamic societes to hide their face or body and that it is worn when women leave their homes, or are around men unrelated to them.. How would you like it if you had to wear that every day no matter what and you couldn't wear anything else? I would find it extremly frustrating.
Most of them are though look at this website it says they took a survey of 160 women and of the 160, 97% of them are forced to wear it. And just think would you want to look like everyone else? People want to stand out they want to be different then others they don't always want to wear the same clothing as others, they want to be and indivudial they don't want to look like a group of people. All people are different don't you want to look that way, and i thought it was a good thing to be different i think women should be able to show that.
If it shows who the person is wouldnt they all be the same then? if women wanted to show who they really are they would wear something else or a different color of one.
Not really. On that other video, they were talking about how just becuase you wear a burqa, doesn't mean you shouldn't personalize it. But they don't. They wear it as a uniform. It doesn't show their identity. It shows they are the same as other muslim women.
When your body is covered from head to toe i dont think it shows the persons identity. And when you meet someone don't you want to see there face, you dont just want to be looking at a black garmet. A black garmet shows nothing about a person
I think the burka is religeous tradition because it says in the quran, "o children of Adam, we have provided you with garments to cover your bodies, as well as for luxury. But the best garment is the garment of righteousness. These are some of God's signs, that they may take heed." (7:26
Yet it says cover your bodies yet there are other clothing that can cover your body. So women should be able to choose other clothing to wear they could wear something that covers there body not as much but still covers them. And it never said cover your body with a burqa it just says we have provided you with garments to cover you bodies it never says anything about a burqa
I disagree with you ian. It doesn't say anything about burqa's it just says "garments to cover your bodies". That means that burqa's are not mentioned in the quran. So they are not a religous tradition to the people.
This is a section from the Qaran about women wearing clothing such as burqas and why they should wear them.
"O Prophet! Say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the faithful to draw their outergarments (jilbabs) close around themselves; that is better that they will be recognized and not annoyed. And God is ever Forgiving, Gentle."
Qur'an Surah/Chapter Al-Ahzab Ayah/Verse 59
This clearly says that women should wear burqas so they can be recognized and not annoyed or forced to stay in the shadows.
But, it still says "Say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the faithful to draw their outergarments (jilbabs) close around themselves". It doesn't say that they need to completley cover themselves.
I know but it does make a point about women covering themselves as a good thing and the women who cover themselves completely are just doing what qaran says in the way they interpreted it.
The way they interpreted it is wrong it just says cover you bodies with the garmets we have given you, it never said they had to be covered from head to toe, it just said they have to be covered, so they could wear different clothing and they would still be covered
But Sam, it also says "that they will be better recognized" so it can't be talking about the burqa because you can't recognize someone who is wearing a burqa. I agree that women should (if they want to) wear chadors or hijabs, but they shoulnd't be forced to wear burqas because it is not a religious tradition.
I agree, but the question is how are the women recognized while they are wearing there burqa's? Also if in some country's that they are forced to wear them does the government give you one or do you have to buy a burqa?
Basically what the article says is that women should wear burqas so there thouroghly recognized by their inside feelings not just by their outside looks... So you don't judge the book by its cover.
Prove it. If it does say that men and women have to wear the burqa, then why do only women wear it? This is either not true, or showing that the men are being oppresive to the women by forcing them to wear it but not wearing it themselves.
they wear it to mace sure that men dont judge them by the cloths they wear and you can take it off at home just not in the pressince of men. in the Quran it says in 24:30-31
"Dressing modestly, therefore, is a trait of the believing men and women. The minimum requirements for a woman's dress is to lengthen her garment (33:59) and to cover her chest. Tyrannical Arab traditions have given a false impression that a woman must be covered from head to toe; such is not a Quranic or Islamic dress."
Supporting Evidence:
that's a fact!
(www.submission.info)
I get what your saying but can you please show me some proof... Also men also take measures to cover up there private areas as well as there apearance.
I found a website that is for a busineness that is actually in the United Arab Emirates(which is located in in Africa east of Saudi Arabia) that sells Burqas in different colors. So women can actually choose the colors they want and still be following their religous code.
I think the burqa is oppresive to women because in the koran it ONLY states that women have to wear modest clothing, not something that covers their whole body, so it seems like they HAVE to wear the burqa.
It does state that they have to wear modest clothing and covering up there whole body is just a choice some women make. They are not required to wear the burqa.
But some women have the choice to wear the burqa and they do because it is supporting their religion and there is nothing wrong with supporting your religion.
YEAH, BUT THEY CAN WEAR THE CHADOR AND THAT WOULD BE JUST AS FINE, A BURQA IS A LITTLE TOO EXTREME, AND THERE IS SOME EVIDENCE THAT THE REASON MOST WOMEN WEAR IT IS BECAUSE OF ABUSIVE HUSBAND, AND ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS FORCING THEM TOO.
Supporting Evidence:
HOW STUFF WORKS
(people.howstuffworks.com)
I agree, since in the Koran it says they don't have to wear a burqa then it wouldn't be considered a religious tradition, so it doesn't make sense that they have to wear a burqa
I think Burqas are oppresive to women because they are saying that men are better than women. They are forcing the women to put themselves down. They are saying that women are less than human.
Exactly. If youre choosing to wear a burqa, its one thing, but if you are forced, maybe thats a thought that you are not excepted a women. Everyones equal, and everyone should get the same rights!
I agree, image that all the women and girls in the u.s. had to wear burqas, how do you think we would feel about that? So the should be able to wear any kind of clothes.
I believe that Burqas are opressive to women because it takes away their ability to communicate effectivly considering that most of our communication is through facial expressions. Also, they can't be their own person, and show their individuality through their own choice of clothing.
In the Koran, it doesn't say to cover your face, so the burqa is not a required religous tradition, it's just an extra step that most people don't take anyways. Taking it away when it's not required is better than making people who don't want to wear it wear it.
When you wear a burqa it makes you look like everyone else, girls dont want to look like everyone else, when you look like everyone else you don't look like an individual you look like a group. And everyone is different I thought it was a good thing to be different from everyone else
also do you like wearing your own style of clothing instead of going to the school where we all wear the same thing and we dont know who we really are and who otheres are.
The burqa is usually understood to be the woman's loose body-covering (Arabic: jilbāb), plus the head-covering (Arabic: ḥijāb, taking the most usual meaning), plus[citation needed] the face-veil (Arabic: niqāb)...... thats from wikipedia! and if you notice how the word covering appears a lot. so you are pretty much trying to cover the muslim women's personality.
I think that the burqa is oppressive to women because in most country's they don't have a choice to wear them. They should be able to express themselves like men. All people should be equal even if some people have more power then others. NO ONE should have to do/wear anything that they don't want to.
I think that the woman should be able to decide weather or not they wear burqas, they shouldnt be killed or beaten when they get cought not wearing it. If they believe that they should then they can have that choice to wear it but if they dont believe in wearing it then they shouldnt have to.
Women should not have to wear the burqa because it says in the quar'an so they dont have to and people are getting called terrorists and criminals because they are wearing them
if women are getting hurt by people calling them rude names or getting shot because they dont want to wear the burqa like the guys do they shouldnt have to be tautured by people out there that say they have to wear them
I agree with you riley, People are getting looked at different because they are wearing the burqa. You cant recongize anyone who is wearing it so you dont know if they are commiting a crime.
i think burqas are opressive to women because they dont have a choice to not wear them and they dont get to show who they are. also if they do want to wear them they can, but some women are being forced and its not fair to them.
I think that woman should be able to choose whether or not they want to wear burqas because who wants to live there life being forced wearing an article of clothing that you don't want to wear.
Yeah and also nothing makes them stand out to anyone. so if you have a bunch of people walking around in the same clothing it doesn't really show who you are.
BURQAS ARE OPPRESIVE TO WOMEN! BECAUSE IN THE QUARAN IT SAYS NOTHING ABOUT WEARING A BURQA, IT JUST SAYS DRESS MODESTLY, SO THEY SHOULDNT BE FORCED TOO!!!!!!
I agree with you bennett. No were in the Koran it says they have to wear burqa so why are they being forced to it's says they took a survey of 160 women and 97% are forced to wear burqas
Burqas are oppreessive to women because it doesn't show who they are they look the same and I say that if some of the women had a choice to wear it or not most of them i'm not saying all of them but most of them would chose not to wear one.
I dont think that many women like to wear burqas and if many of them had the choice to not wear them alot of them wouldnt. also most girls have to wear them cause their parents make them even though they would rather not wear them. i think that they should all have a choice to wear burqas if they want to they can but if they dont like them than they should be able to not wear them.
It is oppressive to women, to force them to wear with no freedom. Imagine not having the choice of what to wear. With just burqas, they wont have personalization to their life.
the koran never said that women had to wear the burqa. the koran just stated that the women should dress modestly. nothing about having to wear the burqa.
You're write the Koran doesn't say anything about a burqa but the burqa was created as a way for women who wanted to go to extremes to follow the Koran
The taliban came to afghanistan and forced the women to wear the burqa.So they didn't have a chosse,the taliban came in and told them they had to wear them.
you spelled choice wrong, and lets talk about the taliban. the taliban are bad people and have done things wrong, like beating up (and blowing up) WOMEN!!! obviously they have a problem with women?! I Challenge anybody to find where it says it's right to beat anybody up for anything!
One of the bad things about the burqa is that a man could commit a crime. Then put on a burqa and escape. The police would think that the person was a women and knowing that the person who commited the crime was a man they would not bother to think that that person was a suspect.
In the middle east, with the high temperatures, the thick black burqas attract the sun and heat reaching scorching temps of 113 degrees! Women are killed each year, and they should have the right to wear what they want and have freedom. BAN THE BURQAS!
CHOICES SHOMICES! I COULD ARGUE THAT THEY DONT HAVE A CHOICE. BUT IM GOING TO BACK IT UP WITH SOME FACTS, 77% OF GIRLS WEARING A HIJAB DID SO BECAUSE OF A PHYSICAL THREAT FROM ISLAMISTS.
This is the headline of the article you found your facts from... Doesn't seem too reliabel. Also it's a blog which means that anyone could say anything on it... Find a better sorce and i will believe you.
in america the muslem women dresses how she wants to, she has the choice of wearing what she thinks is right.it says in the Quran, "Tell the believing men that they shall subdue their eyes (and not stare at the women), and to maintain their chastity. This is purer for them. God is fully Cognizant of everything they do."
I agree with Bennett. and the women should not have to feel that way epecially when the people are telling them to cover their whole face when they don't really have to.
You spelled forced wrong twice, and then let's talk about Afghanistan. There, it is completely oppresive. It doesn't let them be human. It is similar to being a slave. It is like them having less rights than other people.
right, also in the Quran it says that women should dress modestly, not flashy. and the women are protecting their body from men staring and wondering eyes.
I agree with you max because it is exactly like slavery, the people get no freedom of what they want to wear and no choice! it is so unfair that women have to go through this, they should have the same freedom has men.
exactly women are scared for their lives and are wearing it so they don't get their ears cut off, or acid pourn on them. Traditions die off. This one definitely should
